Date: Sat, 28 May 94 04:30:07 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #585 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Sat, 28 May 94 Volume 94 : Issue 585 Today's Topics: 150 Years Bizarre QST statement Field Day! Ham Radio few problems! IDing Internet Virus need 6 meter info to get started Need Advice Radio networking - with PC's Site to look up frequiencies Software to make mock VEC tests What does HAM mean ? Where to find info about ax.25 ??? Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 14:21:29 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!coil!emerald.nist.gov!proctor@network.ucsd.edu Subject: 150 Years To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article drew@trl.oz.au (Drew Diamond) writes: -> -> Interesting how things go round in cycles. Here we are, 150 years ^^^^^^ Just in case anyone missunderstood, he did mean "cycles" and NOT "cycles per second" :-) -> after Morse, sitting at our "workstations", tapping away. -- James E. Proctor | proctor@onyx.nist.gov | National Inst. of Stand. & Tech. My opinions are my own. I have the receipt to prove it. "Waiter, this food has snails in it!" - Lucy Ricardo in French Resturant "I feel like roadkill on the Information Superhighway!" - Doug Marlette ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 1994 14:23:16 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Bizarre QST statement To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In , bob@mtdcr.att.com (14033-R.SCHREIBMAIER(MT5655)1223MT) writes: >Apparently, if you use sweep tubes properly they aren't that bad. > >On the other hand, I once had a Hallicrafters SR-400 that had a pair >of 6HF5s running at over 200 watts output. Had to replace the finals >every 4-5 months. And I didn't even operate that often! > I used 6HF5's in SWAN 500. They input was about 350W in on CW and I believe at least 500W on SSB. I tuned the transceiver in by sending fast dots in CW to halve plate losses, and the tubes showed no sign of deterioration over the period of 2 years and quite active work. I would love to have an amp with 4 6HF5 tubes. SWAN 500 was the only rig where many more people could hear me than I could hear them. Being often one of the first to sign on 80 m DX nets in Europe, I often could not signal reports of weak DXs. I compared IC-735 with SWAN 500. The Icom routinely got reports 2 S lower! So in summary, TV tubes are great peak performers but risky for inexperienced ones. This does not disagree with the QST. Ignacy Misztal Ham radio: NO9E, SP8FWB E-mail: ignacy@uiuc.edu University Of Illinois 1207 W. Gregory Dr., Urbana, IL 61801, USA tel. (217) 244-3164 Fax: (217) 333-8286 ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 1994 15:17:33 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gumby!wupost!spool.mu.edu!news.cs.indiana.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@network. Subject: Field Day! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Chris, I read what u sed abt batteries ================================= > Chris Moore > N6IYS > cmoore@cancun.rose.hp.com ================================= I think you need to get a ceep cycle battery such as for trolling motors. I have three such batteries now. (My camping trailer runs on 12 volts exclusive of the air cond.) My rule is when seeking out such a battery is if it has the word "starting" anywhere on it, I don't buy it. But of course a plain old car battery will work in a pinch. Goodness knows that before all those D.C. batteries were available, hams used 12-V car batteries. 73 de Jack, K9CUN ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 1994 09:31:14 -0400 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!hookup!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!rtp.vnet.net!char2.vnet.net!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Ham Radio few problems! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Michael P. Deignan (md@maxcy2.maxcy.brown.edu) wrote: : rogjd@netcom.com (Roger Buffington) : > I have been a radio amateur since I was a teenager, back in '66, and in : > my opinion amateur radio has never been healthier. The no-code license : > has proven to be a fabulous vehicle for bringing new people into the : > hobby. : I'm glad that amateur radio in your area is healthy. In this area its : in poor health, slowly approaching what amateur radio has become in : southern california. Most of the problems have been with CBers coming : into the hobby and bringing their bad habits with them. 90% of the : callsigns I hear on local 2 meter repeaters are N1xxx no-code calls. : The elmers have fled to the safety of private repeaters or other bands. : MD : -- : -- Michael P. Deignan : -- Amalgamated Baby Seal Poachers Union, Local 101 : -- "Get 'The Club'... Endorsed by Baby Seal poachers everywhere..." How sad. I came to amateur radio after many years of law enforcement, CAP, and even CB. If it hadn't been for a LOT of really nice folks I might have given up or been terribly frustrated. WA9JOB, WA9POV, KA9DDN, WB9RQR, N9UBF, WI9M, and a lot of others point out when I am making a mistake or contrary to some local "custom". Now that I've been around for 6 months I sometimes disagree (and since I participate in the work parties and projects). I am proud top say that I have passed on some of what was given to me with N9VGO/AE (he took his 1st test last September), N9WHT, and a couple of others "in progress" If we are not willing to work on our fellow hams and teach them what we expect of them - I'm SURE that the ever-expanding federal bureaucracy will find it convenient (and profitable?) to do it for us..... 73 de David W. Barrow III, N9UNR (Uninformed New Rachetjaw) exe02594@vnet.net N9UNR@WA9POV.#MKE.WI.USA.NA ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 94 23:11:06 GMT From: news.mtholyoke.edu!news.byu.edu!news@uunet.uu.net Subject: IDing To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Sir Hoagy (hoagy@illuminati.io.com) wrote: | Don't go "This is AB1CDE monitoring 146.88" You don't *need* to | say what frequency you're monitoring. To monitor means to | listen for others who wish to talk. You're not doing it for the benefeit | of the listener on a scanner. As was mentioned before, some hams scan a number of different frequencies -- and the radio may have continued on to the next one before the listener has a chance to stop the scan. Announcing the frequency allows him to know which memory channel to go back to. Some people get really uptight over the speaking habits of others -- "for ID", "73s", etc., but I don't. There are other things I'd rather spend my time on. 73 -- -- Ed Haymore | AA6EJ ed@byu.edu | 3.0x10^8 m/s -- it's not just a good idea. It's the law. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 14:25:27 GMT From: wang!dbushong@uunet.uu.net Subject: Internet Virus To: info-hams@ucsd.edu jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes: >Gang: Just got this via email. I do not attest to its authenticity. >Jeff NH6IL >************************************************************************* >[...] >A Virus has been discovered on Internet that is disguised as CD-ROM shareware. >[...] The information in that post is essentially correct. There was some discussion of it in the virus newsgroups when it first appeared. -- Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 94 23:39:25 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!rlauer@ucbvax.berkeley.edu Subject: need 6 meter info to get started To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I am interested in getting into 6 meters, however i do not know a thing about it. I am hopeing that someone will take the time to give me some information to get me started. I guess that I need some advice on what type of rig to buy, I will have to buy used I think, do to normal college student budget constraints. What do I need to look for in a rig? I have managed to find someone who is selling an Icom 551D, he wants $550 which seems a little high to me. Is that a good price? Anything else you could share will be most appreciated. I have tried to find books on 6 meters but so far no luck. thanks bob lauer kb8rlm 73 ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 1994 09:43:49 -0400 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!hookup!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!rtp.vnet.net!char2.vnet.net!@network. Subject: Need Advice To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Tony Derry (TONY@wvnvm.wvnet.edu) wrote: : I am interested in getting my father started using ham radio. (he : is an avid CB'r so the initial interest is there.) I am looking for : some direction with regard to "what would be a good starter set?" : A friend has recommended a Yaesu FT2200, Astron Power supply and : antenna. Does anyone concur? Have any other ideas? I do need some : help. : tony Tony, Might I suggest the Gordon West No-Code Course with diskettes? It does a thorough job of preparation for the Novice/Tech written. If your dad drives a fair amount I would recommend a Radio Shack 2m HT (when they are on sale at about $180), a Larson mag mount antenna, and a gel cel powerpack, why not make him a twin-lead j-pole for indoor use. This way he has everything he needs for portable/mobile/fixed operation. Then introduce dad to ARES/RACES ... . 73 de Dave Barrow, exe02594@vnet.net, N9UNR@WA9POV.#MKE.WI.USA.NA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 13:58:50 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!mixcom.com!kevin.jessup@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Radio networking - with PC's To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In <2s2pe8$1d5@ratatosk.uninett.no> sandland@nki.no (Sandland Oerjan) writes: >Hi all !! >We are a few students at NKI College of engineering who are >considering to do a project on Radio networking. Do you want to BUILD or BUY the RF portion? >To say it in a (too) simple way....we want to "replace" the >existing coax-cable in the network with radio-signals.... >preferably digital ones....but we dont know yet. There is commercial RF narrow-band and spread spectrum gear capable of mega-bit per second (and greater) data rates that can cover over 10 miles when using a beam antenna. For the SS gear, you do not need an FCC licencse of any kind. Thae amateur radio community will be unable to provide any high data rate solutions. Then again, the commercial stuff is not cheap! Expect to spend several thousand for high data rate spread spectrum equipment that has a range greater than a few hundred feet. For the shorter distances, it's not that expensive compared to the cost of a contractor or consultant doing the LAN wiring for you. For the high-end, high $$ stuff, try... Transformation Techniques CLeveland, OH 216-243-9033 They have a great 5 mile 19.2KBPS SS station that accepts serial data input and blasts it out over RF. Outs it comes on the other side. ABout $1000.00 per seat. Their Mega BPS stuff is several thousand per station. Cylink Sunnyvale, CA 408-735-5800 38.4 KBPS Spread Spectrum "modems" 1000 feet range with the stubby duck through a congested building. 30 miles line of sight with beam antennas. All SS, so no license required. Plug and play! Of course, there's always amateur radio packet! Study hard, pass your test, wait 4 months for your license, spend about $1200 bucks to set up two packet stations (including power supplies, TNCs, radios, coax and vertical antennas) and then talk to each other at 1200 baud! WOW! MyT impressive. ;-)) For only twice the cost of the amateur layout and a lot less work, you can be on the air at 38.4KBPS with SS gear and no noise from the FCC. See, I knew I could turn this into another debate! ;-)) -- /`-_ kevin.jessup@mixcom.com | Vote Libertarian! { }/ | \ / N9SQB, ARRL, Amateur Radio | Call 1-800-682-1776 |__*| N9SQB @ WA9POV.#MKE.WI.USA.NA | for more information. ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 94 23:34:38 GMT From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!ccnet.com!ccnet.com!not-for-mail@ucbvax.berkeley.edu Subject: Site to look up frequiencies To: info-hams@ucsd.edu John Lundgren (jlundgre@news.kn.PacBell.COM) wrote: For California FCC licence data and usa mobile only licence data : Telnet to tcomeng.com password is FCC. the password is case sensitive use fcc -- Bob Wilkins work bwilkins@cave.org Berkeley, California home rwilkins@ccnet.com 94701-0710 play n6fri@n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.noam ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 1994 09:57:54 -0400 From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!hookup!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!rtp.vnet.net!char2.vnet.net!@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu Subject: Software to make mock VEC tests To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Mont Pierce (montp@vortex.eng.sc.rolm.com) wrote: : I just downloaded the latests vec test pools from ftp.cs.buffalo.edu and : I was wondering... Is there any software on the internet that will take : these text files an provide mock tests either on the screen or in : printed form? : tnx, : km6wt Mark, Stop by your local Radio Shack and get the Gordon West NoCode study guide with diskettes. It will do just what you want for Novice and Tech. I haven t seen the stuff for Gen/Adv/Ext but understand that it works the same way. I think the order point for that is WY5I. 73 de Dave, N9UNR ------------------------------ Date: 24 May 94 16:56:07 +1000 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!jabaru.pronet.com!csource!unique!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: What does HAM mean ? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu -=> Quoting cmoore@ilx018.intel.com to All <=- cm>In my opinion, it probably originated in antiquity as cm> a shortening of the cockney way of pronouncing amateur (Hamateur). cm> You will hear a lot of other explainations but this one seems the cm> most likely to me. 'Allo Cecil! As a "Real Live Cockney" from the East End of London, I 'ave never 'eard of this one! 'ave a nice day! Ron, VK5RY in Souf Haustralia. cm> 73, KG7BK, CecilMoore@delphi.com cm> -!- cm> ! Origin: FidoNet<->AARNET Gateway, Melbourne, VIC (3:50/40) ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 1994 16:17:00 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!nac.no!nntp-oslo.uninett.no!nki.no!sandland@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Where to find info about ax.25 ??? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Hi all ! I need to find as much info as possible in the ax.25 protocol...... rfc's faq's anything ! thanks ! 0rjan Sandland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 08:09:00 -0400 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!psuvax1!news.pop.psu.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!newsserver.jvnc.net!rohvm1!rohvm1.mah48d@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994May24.142838.28167@cobra.uni.edu>, , <2s326i$g0d@hpchase.rose.hp.com> Subject : Re: Field Day! In article <2s326i$g0d@hpchase.rose.hp.com>, cmoore@mothra.rose.hp.com (Chris Moore) wrote: > Once you get this figure, what do you do with it? All the car batteries I've > seen have just a "cold cranking amps" number, no amp-hour information. Maybe > it's different for the deep-cycle marine batteries? If not, is there some > way you can tell how long a battery can sustaing a particular current level > based on the "cold cranking amps?" What Ken Nishimura said! The deep-cycle batteries are designed for putting out a constant current for an extended time, so they _are_ rated in amp-hours. If you're going to buy a new battery specially for this purpose, the deep-cycle ones are worth the small additional price over a car battery. If you get the car batteries free (or have a used one or something), the 80 amp-hour assumption is good, but remember this is not a _deep_ cycle device, so you don't want to drain out anywhere _near_ the full 80 amps; 40 or 50 amp hours is a much safer limit. -- John Taylor (W3ZID) | "The opinions expressed are those of the rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com | writer and not of Rohm and Haas Company." ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 1994 16:18:30 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!kenman@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References , <2s326i$g0d@hpchase.rose.hp.com>, .iasta Subject : Re: Field Day! In article rohvm1.mah48d@rohmhaas.com (John E. Taylor III) writes: >In article <2s326i$g0d@hpchase.rose.hp.com>, cmoore@mothra.rose.hp.com >(Chris Moore) wrote: >> way you can tell how long a battery can sustaing a particular current level ^^^^ Well, I use two deep-cycle batteries (24v system) in my wheelchair, and I get about 10 miles at 7 MPH! :) BTW, that's NOT deep-cycles per second! :) :) :) -- Ken Anderson N0ZEM Kenman@iastate.edu PH: 515.294.8996 126 Soil Tilth Bldg., Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011 ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #585 ******************************